Suboxone misuse is much more common than I realized, as I’ve learned from people who write comments to this blog. These opioid addicts have described how they snort, inject, and even anally insert the Suboxone that’s meant to treat their addiction.
Not every addict can be treated with Suboxone from a doctor’s office. For some patients, the addiction is too strong, and they are unable to use the Suboxone as instructed. If a patient is injecting or snorting the medication meant to help them, they aren’t in recovery. These addicts need to be referred for another form of treatment. They aren’t being helped with Suboxone, except that perhaps it’s a little safer then other abused opioids, since at least there’s a ceiling on its opioid effects.
What are the best options for these addicts?
Most aren’t willing to go to inpatient detox followed by prolonged (one to six months) residential drug rehabilitation. It’s costly, and no one likes to be away from home for that long. However, this form of treatment can be life saving and gives the best chance of drug-free recovery.
Or they could enroll in an opioid treatment program, called OTP for short. In the past these facilities were called methadone clinics, because that was the only medication offered, but now many clinics also use buprenorphine. I’m glad to see this trend. For many patients, buprenorphine is a better drug. Patients tend to feel less medicated, and are less likely to feel any euphoria from buprenorphine. And the clinic gives patients more structure than I can from my office.
At OTP (opioid treatment programs) the patients are seen every day. Most clinics are open at least six or seven days per week. That way, patients can be given an observed dose each day. They won’t be able to misuse their medication, since a nurse places the tablet or film under the tongue, with buprenorphine. Methadone, dispensed as a red liquid, is swallowed each day in the presence of the nurse. Diversion to another person certainly isn’t impossible, but it’s much less likely to occur.
So to all of the addicts now using Suboxone in unorthodox ways, snorting, injecting, and other ways, tell your doctor what you are doing. You can get your addiction treated by going to a clinic each day. Counseling is built into the opioid treatment program system. Patients there must see their counselors, and many clinics also make group sessions mandatory.
I’ve become gradually more selective about who I’m willing to treat with Suboxone in my office. I’m more vigilant about medication misuse, since this blog taught me that it happens much more frequently than I previously thought. I now believe that only very stable opioid addicts should be treated in an office setting. Older addicts with jobs, families, and no other addictions appear to do the best in this type of treatment. From now on, if I have openings for new patients, I’m going to screen more rigorously. Many addicts have an addiction that’s too severe to treat with office-based therapy.
Posted by Max Menius on May 9, 2011 at 2:27 am
“Many addicts have an addiction that’s too severe to treat with office-based therapy.”
Looking back over the years at our agency’s OTP clinics, I can say that the highly structured nature of the program has been pretty important. Just getting some clients into the rountine of attending treatment sessions is at times an uphill battle. The folks that do commit, are the ones that make the most progress.
I have no experience with office-based therapy, but it doesn’t surprise me that some patients might struggle with the relative freedom of it. In regard to using treatment appropriately, “older addicts with jobs, families” seem to bring a more genuine desire & mature perspective.
Posted by Momay' on May 10, 2011 at 11:18 pm
Before starting treatment with Suboxone I was enrolled in an MMT program. Being in that program helped me tremendously. Having to go to the clinic each day to dose got me into a regimen that I would not have otherwise had access to.
I honestly believe that if I had gone straight into Office Based Therapy the odds are that I would have been one to have eventually abused my Suboxone. Although I was not one to snort drugs I did inject and I often overused, therefore running out of medication way before my next refill. But being on a program of which I had to dose daily really helped. I am grateful for the program and hope that others who may read your blog take the advice that you have so wisely offered.
Posted by janaburson on May 11, 2011 at 12:49 am
Thank you for your experience and perspective. I’ve noticed that many of patients who are doing very well on Suboxone were first in treatment on methadone at an OTP, and already had experience with recovery.
Posted by Max Menius on May 13, 2011 at 2:03 am
Our agency is down a counselor at one of our OTP sites, and consequently have been “borrowing” an experienced therapist from one of our other much larger OTP clinics.
This therapist said that she was impressed with the depth of recovery she witnessed with clients at our smaller clinic. She’s been providing weekly group counseling for them now for about 6 weeks.
Being smaller (less than 40 clients usually at this particular site) has allowed the clinical and medical staff to provide more individual attention to clients. The smaller size brings more efficient delivery of services, and better organization. The atmosphere at the smaller clinic is definitely laid back, whereas our larger clinic can be somewhat frenetic. Now, if there were only something we could do about reducing paperwork!
Posted by janaburson on May 13, 2011 at 1:26 pm
Thanks Max,
I completely agree! Smaller clinics, by their nature, can give better care in my opinion, because each person can get more indiviualized attention. I work at a clinic in Boone and we don’t ever plan to grow larger than 150. I like this idea. I like knowing each patient. With fewer people I can see patients more often.
Posted by Tyan on June 1, 2011 at 9:07 am
As a recovering addict I must say that it is absolutely critical that a person is serious enough about their recovery to go to an in-patient rehab or intense monitoring for several months before they are given suboxone. If I didn’t go through rehab, a methadone clinic, and been lucky enough to have my doctor of years able to prescribe me suboxone I would be in trouble right now! It takes an addicts brain a long time to even be able to consider not abusing a narcotic that’s what we do! But by the time I was taking home a month’s worth I wasn’t in that place anymore and had and have no desire to abuse my suboxone. I just appreciate it and all the people who helped me. Why do people post such dumb things? Snort subs? Inject them? C’mon! If you are gonna do that why don’t you just go get an oxy or something? It’s just sad. Those are always the people that ruin it for everyone including the people who are really taking suboxone honestly and getting a lot of benefits out of it. It has kept me off of everything! I have no desire to even drink which really helps me avoid other things that I always crave while drinking. Appreciate it and appreciate the people who are trying to help you! How desperate is snorting a sub??!! Hahaha!
Posted by db89g23 on June 19, 2011 at 12:58 am
You are right that Suboxone is abused by some, though those same people would likely abuse ANYTHING put in front of them. I have been shocked at some of the posts I read on the internet, most of which I truly believe are atypical. However, we should remember that Buprenorphine’s high opiod affinity causes it block full agonists, so anyone who does abuse it will simply be preventing themselves from feeling the effects full agonist opiods for a considerable period of time given the long half-life of Buprenorphine. So, I suppose we could look at it as harm reduction. Better for them to use Buprenorphine, in whatever way, than to abuse full agonists that they could OD on. Eventually the relative stability of being on Buprenorphine might lead them onto the path of real recovery… I really can’t see anyone truly liking Buprenorphine for long, it is something a person quickly gets tired of being on.
Posted by sammy on September 13, 2011 at 4:12 am
actually using subx anally is a good suggestion for people who cant tolerate
sublingual because they have extreme nausea from cancer treatments or other
illnesses, early pregnancy etc.
a friend of mine used it that way- another illness made her sensitive-nauseous-
Was the same absorption rate she said.Saved her dentist bills too!
Proladone opiate is a anal suppository form too.
a strange way to take medication nonetheless !
Posted by armando rutherford on September 4, 2012 at 3:40 pm
My domestic partner scott h. Has to everyday come up with an excuse to use suboxone inject it then eveythings ok! He thinks he can’t die from shooting subs but I disagree. I have showed him a lot of different sites.But in the long run he just is depressed and lonely. I work constantly and am afraid he’s gonna die, and I don’t know how to help him? I live in cleveland ohio old brooklyn.. can anyone help me figure a way to come up with a solution how can I help someone who don’t want to listen or even realize they have a problem?…….
Posted by janaburson on September 4, 2012 at 10:23 pm
You may never be able to convince him he has a problem. Addiction makes everyone sick, so please look into going to alanon for yourself. Alanon is for friends and family of alcoholics, and also of addicts. You may be able to find naranon whitch is for friends and family of addicts (including alcohol addicts).
Your own 12-step program will teach you how to keep yourself safe and sane, and help you decided how you want to interact with your partner. This is a fatal disease and he could die – are you doing anything to enable to keep using? Many family members enable without even knowing it, and alanon can give you clarity.
Posted by dbc910281927681 on September 4, 2012 at 10:38 pm
You likely can’t convince him. His mind is made up. Only he can convince himself. It *IS* the most dangerous thing I could think to shoot. It is insanity. I have never done it, never would, never will, and would go through full WDs before trying it. You are playing with your life. Other IV stuff is also of course very dangerous, but this tops it all.
Probably the best thing (realistically), short of an inpatient rehab that may not succeed even then, is to find a way to make the practice safer via extraction and purification of the base element. But that would require chemistry knowledge and experimentation with lab equipment he doesn’t have. It would be ‘harm reduction’, and thus isn’t something I could advise on, or anyone really. So, that leaves you with little else. At least make sure he filters it real, real, real good.
You see the drugs at the hospitals. They are in vials. ALL CLEAR (or mostly). That is purity.
Posted by dbc910281927681 on September 4, 2012 at 10:42 pm
As I read this, I wonder what I’ve said on this blog, or has been said by the account or alias I use. I found that sublingual use is most efficient, and that’s the only way ever administered now. I am no angel, have tried to increase bioavailability, but in the end – you just gotta make sure you do it Sublingually *and* you do it in optimal Sublingual conditions. Make sure your moth is ‘right’. Make sure it sticks where it should. Make sure you’ve clamped down. Make sure you wait as long as have time to wait. And, no matter how it gets into your system, it has to under metabolism that takes 1+ horus before you are going to really feel anything.
Posted by dbc910281927681 on September 4, 2012 at 10:46 pm
Oh, and paradoxically, as is well established in scientific literature, the more you take past amount X, the less ‘good’ or ‘normal’ you will feel. Bupnrenorphine is perfect at the *right* dose to feel NORMAL, and feeling NORMAL seems like a high even. Take too much, and you might get weird, or angry. I’ve had many anecdotal and personal references to getting angry, flying into rages. This is a side effect for some, at higher doses especially. Trust me, it doesn’t feel ‘good’, which is why this is a great drug to get off of opiods on. If you are still looking for a ‘buzz’, you will NOT fine it in Buprenorphine.
Posted by dbc910281927681 on September 4, 2012 at 10:47 pm
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Posted by justino on January 18, 2013 at 3:15 am
I really am serious about quiting im recieving no help to quit suboxone i inject pieces 2 times a day sometimes 3 and diffrent ammouts around a quarter or less every day for 2 years and im very scared of withdrawls i went 3 days and was rideing out the storm no sleep legs hurt body sweat hot cold hot cold if someone would help me someone i dont have the funds too quit and i dont wanna die i really wanna live theres depression and i never was depressed and whats worse is i dont even wanna do the shit i hate it i cry cause i do it the only reason im doing it is because these terrible withdrawls please help me someone please ……
Justinoiannelli@gmail.com
Posted by janaburson on January 19, 2013 at 9:06 am
This disease of addiction is too much for most people to conquer without help. Please look at this website for a treatment facility close to you: http://findtreatment.samhsa.gov/TreatmentLocator/faces/quickSearch.jspx
Posted by dbc913202819276813 on January 19, 2013 at 10:10 am
And if you want to see what the RISK is of injecting CRAP … Check out what is happening in Russia. Google “russia krokodil drug’ .. and check THOSE IMAGES!!! They are injecting a new drug easily made from what they have available OTC, but ending up so impure that their bodies rot from the inside out.