Complications of Intravenous Buprenorphine (Suboxone, Subutex) Abuse

Endophthalmitis from IV drug use















Since I started this blog, some of my readers have educated me about how frequently addicts use Suboxone and Subutex intravenously. I think some of these addicts have become blasé about the reality of complications that can occur from injecting a medication that’s not meant to be injected.

Like oral opioids, Suboxone and Subutex tablets and films aren’t sterile. Bacteria live everywhere, including inside an on oral medication. Since the medication is meant to be taken by mouth, these bacteria don’t harm the user when swallowed or used sublingually as intended. But when injected, these bacteria have the potential to cause catastrophic illness, depending on the nature of the bacteria.

Skin and bloodstream infections, endocarditis

Most commonly, we see cellulitis, a soft tissue infection, around the site of the injection. Sometimes the infection walls off and forms an abscess that usually must be drained. The infection can spread to the walls of the vein, causing angiitis. These infections can spread to the rest of the body, and can lodge in special areas that cause big problems. For example, endocarditis, an infection of one of the heart valves, occurs more commonly in IV drug users. It’s difficult to treat endocarditis, and requires lengthy antibiotic treatments. Sometimes this infection can destroy the heart valve and the patient may require surgical replacement of the valve. People can die from this serious infection.

Some of Singapore’s large population of intravenous heroin users switched to buprenorphine when it became available, but with that availability came an increase in complications from addicts who injected buprenorphine rather than use it as intended.

Researchers studied a series of one-hundred and thirty intravenous buprenorphine addicts that came to a Singapore hospital for treatment for infections. Of those, 31% had cellulitis. In nearly half of those patients, skin and blood cultures were positive for bacteria, most for Staph aureus. Twenty-four percent of the patients with skin infections eventually required surgical procedures, and the average length of stay in the hospital was eight days. (1)

A different study, also done in Singapore, looked at twelve consecutive patients admitted to the hospital with infective endocarditis from using buprenorphine intravenously. Eleven of the twelve patients had Staph aureus in their bloodstream, and five of them died. The average length of stay was 48 days, and multiple medical complications were noted. Three patients required open heart surgery. (2)

Fungal Endophthalmitis

Bacteria aren’t the only unwelcome travelers hitching a ride on a buprenorphine tablet. Fungal endophthalmitis is rare in people who have not had eye surgery, yet it is seen in intravenous addicts in general, and now specifically in addicts injecting sublingual tablets. At least four cases of endophthalmitis in intravenous users of buprenorphine tablets occurred within a year at one Australian hospital. These serious inner eye infections developed due to a type of Candida fungus usually found in the mouth. One of the patients admitted injecting a tablet that had been in her friend’s mouth for a short time, prior to diversion of the tablet to the patient. The oral candida species likely contaminated the buprenorphine tablet through this method.

In the 1980’s, a series of cases of candida endophthalmitis was seen in users of brown heroin. At that time, scientists thought the Candida came from lemon juice used to break down the heroin for injection. However, none of these four intravenous buprenorphine abusers used lemon juice. (3)

It is possible we will see more cases of fungal infections in patients who inject buprenorphine that has partially dissolved in another person’s mouth, due to the oral contamination of the pill.

Talc Granulomatosis

Tablets meant to be taken by mouth or sublingually (under the tongue) often contain talc as a filler. Heroin is sometimes cut with talc, to make more product to sell on the street. When these substances are injected, they can cause talc granulomatosis. Many addicts don’t get regular check-ups and most are reluctant to tell doctors about their IV drug use, even during serious medical problems. This condition is likely under-recognized because on the chest X-ray, talc granulomatosis looks like other interstitial lung diseases. The talc crystals lodge in the lungs, and cause an immunologic response. This in turn causes trouble breathing, dry cough, and low oxygen levels. Respiratory failure and death can occur in the worst cases, since there are no definite effective treatments. In some studies, patients with talc granulomatosis have improved when given corticosteroids, but tend to get worse again as soon as the medication is stopped.

Tablets meant to be used under the tongue aren’t sterile and aren’t suitable to be injected. Tablets diverted from patients who partially dissolve them in their mouths may be particularly hazardous due to contamination with mouth bacteria.  Addicts who inject tablets meant for orally use risk catastrophic health problems beyond overdose.

If you are an intravenous drug user, don’t fool yourself into thinking you’re safe because you use new needles and “works” each time. New needles do reduce the risk of contracting hepatitis and HIV, but oral pills still contain substances that were never meant to be injected.

  1. Ho et al., “Cutaneous complications among i.v. buprenorphine users,” Journal of Dermatology, 2009, Jan;36(1) pp22-
  2. Chong, “Infective Endocarditis due to intravenous Subutex abuse,” Singapore Medical Journal, 2009 Jan;50(1):34-42.
  3. Alboltins et. al., letter to the editor, Medical Journal of Australia, April 18, 2005, Vol 182(8) p.427.

182 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by dbc910281927681 on August 30, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    Oh my goodness! Let me tell everyone, shooting Suboxone or Subutex is a terrible idea. Shooting anything is a terrible idea, but especially Suboxone or Subutex. Even though the Subutex doesn’t have the Nalaxone, and yes, if you are stabilized on Suboxone, you likely won’t feel the Nalaxone when you shoot, you are injecting some serious ‘crap’ into your system. The active ingredients are so small in comparison to the size of the strip or tab that you are injecting mostly filler material. This is probably one of the more dangerous drugs to shoot up. On top of that, unlike other drugs, since it has a high first pass metabolism, you aren’t even going to catch a ‘buzz’, or a ‘better buzz’. It is the addict in you that is telling you to shoot up – as there is no advantage to doing this, only risk – extreme risk. Now, if you’ve got a vial of pure pharmaceutical grade Buprenorphine, maybe things are different… but who has that?


    • Shooting up suboxone is a really bad idea. I did it for a whole year, and it caused severe psychiatric issues, diagnosis of bipolar, and cognitive difficulties as a result. I was smart before I started doing that and now I can barely get through a conversation, without feeling that I’ve lost brain cells. My short term memory is shot, and I am suffering from petit mal seizures. I’m actually on my way to the emergency room , where I’m going to tell on myself. The buck stops here, neeg will tell me more.


    • Posted by michael on March 14, 2016 at 1:15 pm

      I cant stop injecting subutex.ive done it everyday for 15 years maybe.along time anyway.i just wish I could be prescribed heroin.i feel I’m dying and in chronic pain please don’t do it.recently had to get a bloodtests done to start hepatitis c took a lot of searching to find someone that would even try t use the vein in my leg I use everyday.its my last vein I can find.ive had 10000 or more took 3 different visits just to get enough blood for the 39 years old.anyways don’t be like help if you can


      • Posted by Txd3000 on March 25, 2016 at 10:29 pm

        I’ve been injecting sublingual film saboxone for a little over two years as a result all of my vein’s become unusable I was on heroin for almost five years and my veins where never like this I don’t know if it’s a form of cellulitis or what but it definitely has an effect on your vascular system….

      • Posted by I've the ivy on May 31, 2016 at 5:40 am

        I’m the same way when looking for veins but thank God I had went to a hospital that has a rapid response team with uses a ultra sound to find veins u would be dead if u didn’t have veins left just no more veins toward the surrface. Have them search with ultra sound and can simply find deeper veins but don’t be like me and start using the veins they find. Good luck

      • Damn…15yrs???fuck man that sucks.I don’t shoot subutext but I snort it…large amounts,have been for almost’s so hard to take it orally when snorting it gets me buzzed.addiction sucks.

      • Posted by S on July 31, 2017 at 1:19 pm

        omg sounds just like me. 10yrs and im 35.
        what happened after your hospital visit, what they say? do u have kids ? help.😭

      • Posted by Brooke on October 15, 2017 at 3:01 am

        Wow….thought I was only one, 2003 I started….I do want to take it properly but still go back to same old same old, feel of the steel….Good Luck mate

      • Posted by Noodlr on October 19, 2020 at 8:50 am

        Ty for honest and real warnings. Its hard to do that to the self sometimes but needed for others!

  2. Posted by Dave Steele on December 29, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    If you were to crush a buprenorphine pill and heat it up, then wouldn’t that kill any bacteria?


    • Good question, I’m not sure. I’m guessing most addicts just apply heat until the pill dissolves, perhaps not long enough to sterilize the solution. Some bacteria are heartier than others, and fungi are different than bacteria. Sterilization also depends on the length of time the substance is heated, as well as the degree of heat, I believe.


      • Posted by billybob on January 9, 2013 at 6:47 pm

        Heating the solution only kills some of the bacteria, even if it is completely boiling. Also, this dissolves more crud in the water that can precipitate out once it is in your body and will clog you up more. Most harm-reduction advocates suggest cold water when people are injecting pills. Other drugs are usually heated though

      • Thank you! I didn’t know that.

      • I hesitated to post this comment, because I sure don’t want to advocate injecting anything…but since he is describing a process that can possibly reduce harm done by injecting the film, I posted it.
        I do get many comments describing in detail how to misused certain opioids, and I don’t post them because this blog is about recovery and not addiction.

  3. Posted by Conny on February 19, 2013 at 7:03 am

    I’ve been injecting suboxone since my husband walked out when our son was one years old. He is now 12. I thought I was beening clever as I was no longer breaking the law and taking my son into the drug culture. The person I get the suboxone from has candida. I haven’t talked to a doctor cause I’m too ashamed but I’m very sick. My ankles have swollen and my legs hurt. My eyes play up and the back of my neck hurts alot. When I lay on my back in bed and cough my heart gives me a stab of pain. I do smoke but if I take a deep breath my lungs hurt. Things were bad but turned woarst fast when I ran out of veins and started to inject into arteries. Some days I wish I would just drop dead or buy some herion and end it. I’m SO scared for myself and my son.
    Thankyou for your comments. Is there anyway to improve my circulation and my quailty of life, I’m 47 and don’t have much hope to reach the end of the year.


    • Wow, the extent of possible medical issues is very worrisome. I think shame over being addicted is a luxury you can’t afford if you want to live. Please go to a hospital emergency room and tell them everything. Now.


    • Ok I promise to be gentle with this. You have a child, most addicts don’t care firstly until they get they’re fix, your sick. Get some help, I’m on suboxone because I was out of sorts. I’ve been on it for 10 months now and helps me a lot, as it is prescribed. I will not b on it forever. Listen my dear, the way to increase circulation us to STOP doing drugs, u r kidding yourself that suboxone will save u, it won’t. Yes it can help , but you gave already broken the first rule of using something to help you, you try to get high off something that is supposed to help you!. YoU have a kid!!!!! Get help!!!


      • Posted by conny on September 16, 2014 at 11:19 am

        Yes I have stopped, last year, u must have missed my next blog when I started up Chinese medicine.
        Thanks for your concern…… I’m moving forward and my son is my. Major priority.

      • Posted by Brooke on October 15, 2017 at 3:06 am

        How did you stop?? And what Chinese medicine. You should be proud, I’m still trying….

      • Posted by Conny Mieser on October 17, 2017 at 1:46 am

        Thanks for your concern.. my son is 16 now and I nolonger take drugs or inject.
        Yoga massages and herbs brought me back to health. I have a fantastic relationship with my son and he’s proud of me.
        I hope you too can stop. Life is so much better.

    • Posted by Tim Freeman on February 3, 2016 at 6:13 am

      I pray that you are alive to read this Connie because I came here to get info on the benifits of injecting a strip even after reading others say “ohhh your so stupid or you idiot, ext: Known of those comments derailed me but Bonnie your story that came from your heart touched my heart and I promise you that my subs will be put under my tongue! GOD bless you Bonnie and if you are reading this and something tells me you are well Bonnie thanks you just saved my life! I love you Bonnie and may GOD forever take care of you!!


      • Posted by Conny on February 17, 2016 at 11:28 pm

        Thanks my friend, I’m glad your not injecting. I stopped to and my veins have improved.
        Thanks for your kind words.
        Love Conny

    • Posted by Nicole on February 4, 2016 at 11:34 pm

      Wow,im glad to hear your still Alive today…im on suboxen and have been for 3 yrs and for the past year n a half i have been injecting it and i know its real bad and its probley killing me but the addict in me wont stop….i know i need to stop do you have any words of encouragement that u could help me with….because i want to stop but just cant…i ran out of viens long time ago so i just go.into the smaller ones….i.know that’s even worse…


    • Posted by Michael on September 25, 2016 at 6:33 pm

      Bless ya. Ivery been doingood it for a year. I get pains in chest too. I’ve decided to try not inject anymore let’s see if I can go through with it.


      • Posted by Conny on September 27, 2016 at 7:51 am

        I’ve stopped injectioning since 2013 but now I’ve been diagnosed with cancer
        Lung cancer which can’t be cured
        I’m not injectioning due to my son. But I’ve had the chemo and radiotherapy which has helped a lot. But now I have to stop smoking which I find harder than the needle

  4. Posted by Conny on February 20, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Thank you for your reply. I went to the Alfred in Melbourne. They took blood and did an x-ray then let me go home. The doctor said my symptoms were anxiety and that I looked far too healthy to be on deaths door! Thank god. And thank you as I otherwise wouldn’t have gone. This really is my rock bottom, I just aren’t capable of doing this any more. Now I just have to get my eyes checked. Maybe I’ve dodged a huge bullet. Fingers Crossed..


    • I’m so glad you went to the doctor, and glad you are OK!


    • Posted by S on July 31, 2017 at 1:27 pm

      glad to hear but it also sounds just like all the hospitals and drs iv seen and told about myself. they blow me off. Dr Jana – my arm went like the weird purple blotchy stuff, hurt a fair bit and i went to hossy after seeing your blog and reading about the purple , the cross , etc….hossy treated me like crap and said go to rehab ! Next …and my turn was over. makes it so hard to get help. iv got a child and i want help .


  5. Posted by James SanMarco on April 15, 2013 at 6:05 am

    I am a 24 year old guy in Pa.I started using opiates and such as a teenager.I got clean plenty of times just never could stay away for good.I started buying suboxone on the street about a year and a half ago and soon after made injecting it an everyday habit.Let me tell you everything you read here is fact if not worse.Im 6’5 180 so im pretty skinny and very vieny at least I was.From injecting this crap like I do religiously I have destroyed every visable vien/arterie I can possibly get the stuff in.When I do manage to hit a vien my blood is now thick and full of clot looking things so bad it leaves no question I have done sum serious damage here.This December I was admitted into ICU for severe chest pain and breathing complications.The doctors summed it as phnumonia but I knew in my mind it had sumthing 2 do with my habit wich I just read above how it affects your lungs.Even tho I continue to use suboxone this way like an immature idiot I am very avid on making others aware of the serious effects of using this drug this way.And on top of everything like stated above it hurts you worse than just about any IV ingested drug and doesn’t do much for you when looking at the consequence.For me I defidently feel the presence of the drug a little more when injected but I mean come on sumthin that’s literally shortening your life drastically everytime you shoot straight jelly into your life force I have to say isn’t worth it.I hope ne1 thnking of using suboxone IV comes across this info B4 destroying there coronary,yes the human body is an amazing thing but once ur packed with so much filler your viens are not ever healthy as they once were I have a few friends that used suboxone IV like me and quit 4 a good year and still have relly no visible viens.Also I would like to add when I was in the hospital for my breathing trouble they neede to administer me IV antibiotics,needless to say this is now a process.It took 3 or 4 different nurses trying many times to even semi get an IV in me and when they were successful the solution had trouble passing and eventually blew the vein out.I asked a doctor that was in to see me if he ever saw nething like this sum1 having this much trouble getting an iv and he said yes, in elderly patients. So every1 needless to say IV use of suboxone is a terrible terrible idea,trust me im not trying to b wishy washy I am a hardcore addict who loves mood altering substances,but for heavens sake don’t do sumthing that has virtually no reward and dire consequences,not that I promote drug use of ne kind for any1 but if you are a user don’t do this or I promise you will be lucky to live to regret it.If the addict in use just has to take subs other than how u should,try taking a spoon dissolving it and snorting it.Once again I don’t push the abuse of drugs im just trying to make as many aware as I can so you don’t end up destroying your health as I did and many friends of mine have done.Were all made out of the same stuff flesh, blood, organs and a standard coronary, if you inject suboxone you WILL either end up with poor health or 6 feet, make the right choice, if you survived your iv habit by not overdosing, wich is luck as heck in it self, don’t end up dead over sumthn that was designed to help you with your addiction, once again im no uncle tom, I wish like heck you could use subs IV with no more risk than nething else but unfourtunately you cant or you will destroy yourself its just the way it is. Just come to grips with the fact your drug use was fun while it lasted and you survived it, b thankful theres sumthing that can keep the yucky feeling and cravings at bay and is no where near as addictive and relatively easier to obtain in a pinch than methadone, use subs 4 what they were intended 4,to keep ya off the junk and stabilize your life easier than cold turkey.PLEASE IF YOU ARE THINKING OF OR ALREADY USING SUBOXONE IV STOP IMMIDIATELY, IT WILL HURT YOU!!!!!! And finally In closing, befor u make the mistake of picking up this habit just think a year or less from now if complications don’t arise even befor then, you will b just like me and conny and many other people, left wondering how many years/decades you shaved off your life for sumthing so ridiculous,Plez heed my warning guys, unfourtunately suboxones fairly new and there isn’t a whole lot of talk about the effects of abuse, mark my words as people continue to use subs IV u will here more and more of rock hard veins, complete loss of veins,complications and deaths.Trust me this December I officially became the poster child of why this is a bad thing to do.Lastly guys,lifes to short as it is,theres so much that can kill you out there as it is, theres no need to die by your own hand, let me and others who unfourtunately already seen first hand the dire side effects Be the guinny pig here, were laying feet up X s in our eyes, Don’t be foolish, hopefully in the near future there is more awareness on this particular thing, but if your reading this you either know its a bad idea and not to do it or you will want to stop now. Be safe evry1 don’t forget theres more to thnk about than your own selfish urges to get high neway possible, theres folks that love you that don’t deserve the strife of loosing you over sumthing so incredibly stupid and if you don’t have folks Gods got you and he didn’t put you here to kick the bucket over sumthing so petty.


    • Posted by JamesRyder on November 5, 2013 at 5:27 pm

      Even though your post is about five miles long . thank you. swim just dif a shot for the first time and is gonna be swims last. you saved someone bro


      • i agree you saved two bud thanks i know a guy who has done it twice now and he wont do it again

      • Posted by Crazybitch1980 on July 27, 2014 at 11:16 am

        thanks for the post, I learned a lot from this, I also say that you will save many lives from people reading this. especially if they have any sense let to them at all. Its been going on 2 years ow an I bet ya today will be the last one for this ole gall

    • Posted by joey on April 22, 2014 at 9:41 pm

      I feel you bro. I too am from pa and have been iving sub’s in every form for the last 10 to 12 years shooting around 8 times a day. I recently was hospitalized with a 90% collapsed lung the worst the dr had ever seen. I was watching TV when I had a nagging pain in my back that was just a bit uncomfortable so I figured I’d just wait it out as I always do when I get chest pains which is a common accurance with me but within 20 min I had such a pressure in my chest and back shoulder blade it felt as if standing on my chest smothering me. with every breath it got worse to the point that I couldn’t take a breath. Turns out that filler and insualluables from suboxone mainly due to the fact that I had it at will and could shoot whenever I desired as apposed to shooting less when I was on dope somehow ruins your lungs. After a month in the hospital with a chest tube and corrective surgery on my lung soon as I got out first thing I did was run for the needle. Due to the fact that all my veins were dead or rock hard when I first got to hospital they needed to put an iv in me and couldn’t which could have coated me my life my deflated lung was pushing against my heart and time was crucial. They had to ram a thick hose under my arm between my ribs the whole way to my chest cavity and suck out surrounding air build up all while I was awake with no anesthesia he pushed so hard and fast it lifted me off the bed. Believe me people this banging sub’s shit ain’t no joke. Scariest shit that ever happened to me and I still went running back first Chance I got. I live in fear every night all for some shit that doesn’t even get you high after a month no matter how much you do. A small piece is no different from doing 5. But that doesn’t stop me from trying


      • i’ve been doing iv bupe for about a year and i recently stopped. im also having some trouble breathing, so i wanna ask you about it… what is actually wrong with lungs in this case and what is the treatment? and how are you doing now?

      • Posted by Ann on August 7, 2016 at 7:04 pm

        I have a genuine question for you. you say youve been iv’ing subs for 10-12 years, after so many health issues what keeps you from doing heroin or pills instead? I’m genuinely curious, since for all the hell youve gone thru, you havent switched or gone back to an opiate that at least delivers a full high. Thank you, hope you are well.

    • Posted by dax on October 2, 2014 at 10:31 am

      I have 1 question for you. i was also using bupe IV and i stopped about 3 weeks ago. Now i have some breathing difficulties but everything else seems to be ok. my psychiatrist says it becouse IV bupe is bonding to some chest muscles… My question is what your breathing difficulties were and how long it took you to recover and are you fully recovered now (if not, what health issues do you have)?


      • …bonding to your chest muscles???
        I don’t know what your doctor means.

      • i dont know exactly, but iv bupe bonds differently then sublingual and somehow it affects muscles like heart and diaphragm… i dont cough, my only symptom is “weak breathing”, like i cant breathe in enough air…
        p.s. sorry for my english…

      • Posted by joey L on July 9, 2015 at 12:13 am

        I really didn’t have any signs leading up to my collapse lung. Although I would get minor chest pains at night but I’m not sure thatwas related. I wasn’t even doing anything physical at the time it happened. I was just watching tv chillen. Also I should have stated that there was no proof that iving sub had anything to do with my lung. The Dr never told me that’s what caused it but I never told him I was shooting suboxone. It’s my belief that it played a role in the occurrence. I read or was told and I’m not sure if it’s true that cut in pills and other non water soluble fillers go to or effect the lungs. My diagnosis was something called a spontaneous tension thorax. I was told it can just happen out of nowhere usually to guys with a tall skinny build. Normally in less severe cases a chest tube will allow the surrounding air trapped in the chest cavity to escape giving the lungs a chance to seal itself. They tried that with me but after a week or two it didn’t get any better so I had to have surgery to fix it. The Dr told me I had what he called blebs which he explained to me as thin spots in the lungs and they were all over my lungs. One area couldn’t take the pressure I guess and it deflated. He later told me as big as the hole was it would have never healed without surgery. Could have saved me a few weeks in the hospital by just doing the surgery right away but I don’t think he knew the extent until I had a fu’ll cat scan. They patched the affected area and reinforced weak spots with Kevlar or something. Told me if I made it past a year without a reoccurring incident my chances get better that it won’t happen again but he said I’ll always be at risk. It’s been 2 years so far so good 100% recovery for the most part. Still can’t sleep on my side without pain which sucks cuz that’s my favorite position but not a big deal. I’m still on subs and prob always will be but I take them as prescribed. Still able to work full time and live a somewhat normal life. Subs can be a blessing and a curse. Use them correctly and you won’t have to go through hell every day or live that junky lifestyle. really is cliche but one day at a time. Who knows what Will be wrong with my health long term but right now I feel pretty good.

      • Posted by Joe Scamati on October 16, 2015 at 12:12 am

        It is the cornstarch in the subutex that affects the lungs.

    • I too have been a drug attic. I take 3/4 to a whole sub a day. Your post stoodout to me because I too have shot up the subs.. I would put them in a spoon and crush the pill. Then I would take out a cigarette cotton and pour about 40cc water in it and drain that orange goop right in my syringe. Then I would pin the tail on the donkey and Instantly knew I was in pure sin and Russian roulette. I knew better as I was a undereducated addict doing what someone else taught me. I began to d this daily and was working at Montana Rockworks supporting my kids and woman. I knew that I was destroying myself doing hard labor and shooting, but I liked to be high and Sub got me high all day. The rush it gave me was simply the rush of seeing my blood flash in the rig and I called it beam me up Scotty. I know this sounds horrible, but let me tell you the whole story before you judge me. I met a girl hooked on oxycontin and I fell in love with her. I battled her off many times before I myself had to have knee surgery. I was a health freak and a football player fresh in my early 20s. When I had the surgery it was easy to get into the pills . I believed in Jesus and had a good relationship with him so I got off all the pills. When I did that I went through withdrawals and someone gave me a suboxone. I swear as soon as I started taking it God was hard on my conscience but I pushed him away and said “I cant be perfect right now sorry”. That was when my ife went down hill. When I met a guy that introduced me to meth, I began mixing the two….until one day I shot up both at once and had a severe Pulmonary Embolism! I fought for my life unable to breath. My heart pounded and would race and then stop and I could not breath.. Everything went dark and my wife was in my arms. I said I loved her and “Jesus Forgive Me” and I knew I was dying. But a miracle happened as God did not let me die. Insead this cycle went on with my heart stopping and pounding for 32 Hours. Don’t do drugs Jesus Bless You Amen!


      • orange poop? my daughter found her boyfriend a heroin addict since he was born and started using mmm 10 plus yrs ago ready to shoot up this morning in the bathroom of course she woke the whole house up… he told her he has been shooting up his suboxone. I seen his syringe loaded with a clear liquid. If it was suboxone would it be clear also?

      • I would think the brand Suboxone would be orange. Maybe if he were injecting generic buprenorphine it would be clear.

    • how long did it take until you were able to breathe right again. I have such a hard time breathing atm and been in the hospital 3 times due to lack of breathing. my chest hurts.but i dont want to tell the doctor anything because im scared:(


    • Posted by Robb on May 27, 2016 at 2:11 am

      Never again, you just spoke to my soul and probably saved my life unfortunately I’ve already done it several times I’m going to stop now I just broke the needle threw it in the trash and hope I live through this..


    • Posted by Ann on August 7, 2016 at 6:51 pm

      Hi. repeating that she has a kid is shame based thinking. Addiction is not a moral deficiency, it is a disease. If it were so simple to stop by way of bearing children, no parents would be addicts. That’s the whole point of addiction..logic, morals, beliefs don’t have an ultimate say in our actions, and addiction doesn’t discriminate. I feel like you don’t have a working knowledge of addiction and am wondering how you came to be on subs yourself? To Conny, congratulations on moving forward. I would love to be directed to the blog where you describe transitioning from subs to chinese meds. I’m hoping to taper off soon and can use all the tips i can get to taper successfully and remain abstinent.


    • Posted by Ann on August 7, 2016 at 6:59 pm

      thank you. ive been thinking more and more about iv’ing my subs, and im about to switch to bupe pills, but what you wrote is really redirecting me and reminding me why i got on this med in the first place. for that id go back to shooting dope, and thats not the life i want anymore. I hope for you that you are able to find it within yrself to take yr own advice and see that yr worth it and it is possible. You arent sentenced to die this way. I believe that a person who could write that sincere deep meaningful post is a person that has it in them to get out of their hole. best wishes to you.


  6. Posted by rob on June 6, 2013 at 8:43 am

    ive been injecting strips for 7 monyhs and just recentjy felt what u r talking about. my chest is feeling rough. so i looked it up and found this i live in pa i went a month just dissoveing strips with no cotton sucking that shit up and shooting it. iam done this shit has be feeling crazy like what iam i doing


  7. Posted by Mr.Knight_001 on June 18, 2013 at 12:07 am

    I have been shooting buprenorphine for 3 1/2 years. In the past few months have started having problems. Swollen ankles is what started then heart flutters and then the ankles feet and legs got swollen and tight as the day went on. I went to the hospital and thought it was endocarditis, pumped me full of antibiotics and took diuretics. My ankles went down to normal which I hadn’t seen in two months. Right after going back to work they got swollen again. Seems every day they get a little worse and go down a little when I put them up at night. But I’ve had alot of other symptoms also. I have kinda chicken legs and typically my ankles are damn neer size of calves, legs up to thighs swollen, I have woke up every Saturday with the worst headache I. My life, so bad it hurts to move, can’t eat and nothing will help, by Saturday night, later sat night I get much better. But by end if day at work my legs are so soar and stiff it’s crazy, I have foamy pee and today I started to see like a little rash on inside if legs right above ankles, kinda red dots and some red around maybe from being irritated. My legs are sore to touch and when h set te in a coffee table or have my legs crossed like Indian style they leave indentions, like obvious indentions. I’m 28 year old male never had any surgeries allergies or any health problems, really. Till now, the hospital ran ultrasound on my heart for valve damage and didnt seem to be any and they put me to sleep and put camera down throat and took pic of heart and didnt show anything, the first ultrasound they took if heart, there was some fluid arojnd it but cleared it up with antibiotics. They did ultrasound of legs for blood clots and didnt find anything. Came home and legs went back to being swollen like explained. Don’t know what’s going on. Anyone hear similar situation or anything like read same problems then is love to hear what you’d have I say, thank you


    • Please go back to your doctor. There are so many things that could be going wrong that only a doctor can run the tests to determine the cause of the swelling.

      Some of my fears would be pulmonary hypertension from injecting. Particulate matter in injected substances can lodge in pulmonary vessels and cause pressure to back up. pulmonary problems from other causes, like COPD, emphysema, causes leg swelling. Severely low blood proteins can cause lower extremity swelling, from a very poor diet lacking protein. Severe anemia causes leg swelling. A bad liver with cirrhosis can cause fluid to back up into the legs. Left heart failure can cause leg swelling, but it sounds like you had a full workup for that. And varicose veins, a relatively more benign problem, can cause swelling.

      Can Suboxone cause swelling? I’ve never seen it, at least when used sublingually, but I wouldn’t completely rule that out, either. But I think you have to make sure there’s not a more serious cause before saying it’s the Suboxone.

      You just need to go back to your doctor.


    • Posted by rach on June 25, 2013 at 6:55 am

      My left leg has started swelling, the calf and ankle, foot area only. It always happens whe I’m sitting with my legs dangling down like sittin on the edge of a table high enough my feet don’t touch the floor. If my feet touch the floor, it doesn’t happen. It gets so big and tight, I can’t put shoes or tight jeans on. If I sit cross legged or prop it up, it makes it normal again. It just started, and iv been worried. I came off a 7 yr dope habit and have been using subs iv for 14 months. My heart flutters but iv got bad anxiety and depression so iv always thought it was from that. I’m getting off subs in 2 weeks though, thank god. I’m ready to be done. Plus I havent any viens left either


      • That’s worrisome. If one leg is swollen, you could have a blood clot in the vein of the lower leg. Please go to the doctor right away.

    • Posted by Tim on November 4, 2016 at 5:53 am

      My breathing gotten a little tough, but my heart has been acting strange for almost a year now and the last couple weeks it’s been getting worse. Its 1:40am right now and it’s pounding so hard that its a little difficult to breath and this is every nite i go through this. I been the films for 4 years.


  8. Posted by conny mieser on June 20, 2013 at 8:44 pm

    Hi it’s Conny, The medical profession kept telling me that I was healthy, but I went to a Dr in Chinese Medicine, he said my blood flow was tight, life force extremely low and blockages between my organs. It has taken over a month of weekly acupuncture, massage. herbs and yoga!!…….. My health has returned!!! and my blood flow is back and yes my swollen ankles are gone 🙂 my god I was sick! I hope the Dr keeps this email up, Also I HAVE stopped injecting as well. Love to you all Conny.


  9. Posted by Jason on August 3, 2013 at 11:59 pm

    It is true. I learned the hard way but it could be worse. I am still in the hospital, been here 3 days and counting. IV suboxone film, and occasionally a tablet, earned me a fungus in my left eye. I am now legally blind in it. No doubt about where it came from it was 4 sure the IV subs. They did a test on my heart and say that it looks ok, thank god. I feel like a fool using the thing that was made to get me better to destroy myself. Like other people on this blog my veins are virtually gone. The hospital has to use an ultrasound machine to get a vein. I don’t know if my vision will get any better or not. It has improved from the day I came in, now I can tell that it is a big E on the top of the chart. 3days ago I couldn’t see anything but a blurry white rectangle where the chart was. Take it from me, if you are gonna use suboxone USE ONLY AS DIRECTED!!!


  10. Posted by Jordan Toth on January 27, 2014 at 10:48 am

    Omg I’m so scared now I only be shooting sub film for 4 months tops but I been have chest pain around my heart also my legs and arms go numb very quickly when sitting or laying certain ways! A little pain in the back of my eyes! It does nothing to get me high I guess I do it cuz I’m depressed I feel like that’s my time! I put a half of a 8mg strip on the spoon squirt about 100 CC of water and I suck up like 20 CC about 3 times a day I let the cotton and sub solution on the spoon on the Med cabinet! 😦 I’m so worried about my health and the future of my two beautiful boys! I’m going to the hospital ! Any advice? I’m crying right now scared out of my mind ! I feel like going in the bathroom n doing my thing! That’s my release but that’s gone now! I don’t know wat to do now? I also live in pa greensburg pa that’s close to Pittsburgh! Any doctor u can recommend to help me??


  11. Posted by st on March 14, 2014 at 5:31 am

    I been iving sub for 6 years with steril syringes and .2 syringe filters for 4 of it. When I started using filters I stopped having sweeling in my legs, but my nails and skin have gotten worse, and my vision has gotten worse with headaches/.pain in my eyes. Eye doctor says my eyes are perfect, and nothing explains pain, but I can only believe subutex causes these problems… I keep wanting to get off, but addiction is a bitch. I biggest concern is my eyes as this has been going on for 6 months or so.. only take a 1/4 pill a day, but this stuff is just nasty for IV. I think Heroin would be less damaging this this crap.


  12. Posted by One Big Mess on March 24, 2014 at 2:34 am

    Thank you for posting this info about Suboxone/subutex Bacteria. I don’t think Suboxone Shooters are the only ones suffering from this strange side effect. I have been on Suboxone for 10 years. After a Heroin/OxyContin Addiction. I’ve never used a needle.
    Over the years Ive noticed strange things happening to my body. Skin conditions, swelling in legs, constant sinusitis, strange mucous in eyes, etc…
    But the past 3 months have been the worst. I’m heading to the Emergency Room in the morning.
    About six months ago. I switched over to the Films. I am very sick.
    From What Ive been reading. My symptoms sound very similar to Lymes or Candida.
    I’ve always wondered about The Suboxone. Thanks for uncovering this. People should know about the symptoms and side effects. There are many others out there suffering. I’ve come across many Posting questions about these same conditions. Most People aren’t injecting their subutex/suboxone.


    • You have completely missed my point.


      • your an idiot janaburson…life is short… if these people want to do whatever with they’re body then let them…none of your business dumba$$… I shoot pandas & sub all the time for years and I have had no ill effects…I hold a great job and no1 knows about my habits unless I let them know…have a strong mind people…do it right if your going to do it at all…and dont listen to idiots about drug addiction who have never even smoked a joint & are lame@ss squares… party on!..LIFE IS SHORT MAKE THE MOST OUT OF IT & HAVE FUN DOING IT…

      • Just curious…why are you reading my blog about pain pill addiction?
        Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you are reading. Maybe you can read something that will be of use later.
        I wish you the best.

  13. Posted by mark a. swope on May 10, 2014 at 11:53 pm

    thank you so much for the information i have been iv using subs on and off for five months and that is not even with continual use and almost all my veins are ruined i have stopped injecting and my veins are still hard as rocks and i can feel bumps in my arms where i injected it the most. i am very scared that i have messed my heart up like i said i have stopped but i still am very scared about what i have done to my body. I have been an iv drug user for 13 years and most of that was heroin. i would say that is the only thing that should be iv’ed ever and thats certainly not the smartest thing in the world but i never got rock hard veins from it….


  14. Posted by lost in ky ;) on June 6, 2014 at 1:19 am

    I want to thank everyone for the information ive found on this post. I have recently started shooting the subs and I do not even get high from it but I know that as long as I do the subs I wont be able to do my choice drug (oxycodone) because of the blocker in the subs, my ankles stay swollen and my heart flutters frequently and I have bruises and knots all over my body from missing and not being able to find a vein, I discust my self when I look in the mirror and see what I’ve became but, I suppose im getting better every day…. This info really helped me and I will spread the word to my friends who also use…… #N33dsomeRehabAndMentalhealth:/


  15. Posted by Michael on July 19, 2014 at 5:59 am

    I just want to say that I was thinking to try subutex IV and after reading all of this I have decided to stick with sublingual. Thank you so much for this!


  16. Definitely! Even though the strips seem safe to the consumer, who knows what happens once it congeals within the blood. Who knows where it sticks, what organs/ enzymes/ capillaries it deactivates and clogs. (a)nd who knows, really, anything about this drug other than “Oh, great it’s a full mu opioid receptor agonist!”

    It’s an old drug with no research intravenously. It’s Rx’ed APO and sublingually for a reason.

    Ever wondered why it says: do not cut, chew or swallow? The answer is simple; Who knows where the 10mg (ae:8/2mg film) of active substance lies within that 40mg (actual weight) strip. It’s not like it’s an indole and you can just swipe a black light over it to see exact concentrations.

    It’s use has become too widespread and over-prescribed. Week tops/ two if you’re a “Horse” maniac and then taper off sublingualy.

    The oral bioavailability of buprenorphine plays a large role in the way it’s being marketed: SUBLINGUALY!

    Shoot the strips gives you 100% bioavailability. Therefore, if you take that route.. WELCOME to a whole NEW world of withdrawal.

    Just my two cents!

    About me!
    Clean from dope 15 days. Still IV-ing Bupe films. Bupe is the next one to mark off of my list.

    Thanks guys!


  17. I had no idea. Left the hospital two weeks ago yesterday!
    My start was about fifteen years in ago after a bout of Diverticulitis followed by a three week love affair with a PCA in the local butcher store or (hospital) as some like to call them. I don’t completely fault the physicians for my choice to continue down the path I decided to follow, but after a time period of “feeling no pain” for the first time in decades it’s not an easy choice to make when they ask “How’s your pain level” , humm if I just say “oh doc it’s at least a nine” I get a shot at a life long supply or “I’m okay doc, I can handle it” welcome back all my old aches and pains… Humm!!! I’m sure someone can relate.
    So fast forward six years, “I got to kick this sh*t, everyday chasin’,this sucks” Six days in the local rehab (2006, I put the date in for the Subox relevancy, they were fairly new with it then but everyone I saw coming out of rehab with it was jumping right back in. I chose working without a net or cold turkey as we used to call it!) So with three years completely clean the old back injury comes_a_knockin’ doc says “try some of these” I know better but … I’ll do it different this time, stick right to to script. That lasted an amazing two years, with the obligatory ups every three to five months, you know the one ” doc that’s just not working anymore” doc says “okay”.
    So enough boring back story! A close friend with twelve legitimate years clean goes back to the “horse”. It blew me away but I said I’ve got some oxy’s that will crush up nice and it a pharmaceutical so its got to be clean, I’ll use some cotton and all that talk oF FILLERS, not me……..

    I’ve had two heart attacks after I got clean and this chest pain I’m feeling today is just like another one. Three days of tests and they say my heart looks fine. The chest Xray is unremarkable, but it hurts like a bastard! Send me home with some new meds and hope for the best. Its been over a week now and it still hurts let me go on the internet and research. What’s this bit about talc, sounds just like how I feel.
    But I Only Did It Maybe Twenty Times!!!
    I’m scared sh*t and I can’t tell my wife, she’ll leave me, I can’t tell the doc’s they’ll treat me like scum! I’m so freaked out, what can I do, even if I die they’ll do an autopsy and find the granules in my lung’s!

    What can I do I’m so scared?


    • Please go back to your doctor and tell her everything. You’d rather die than face a possibility your doctor will treat you like scum? Addiction is a disease, and a good doctor will know this and behave accordingly. Yes there are asshole doctors, and I pray you don’t meet one, but you’ve got to go back and tell her everything.


  18. Posted by Angela on August 21, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    I am so glad I came across this information. My husband has been shooting suboxen for about three months now and his body is covered with a fungal infection. He has also had a lot of leg, foot, and back pain. I knew it all had to be from the suboxen. I have shared this information with him. I hope it will scare him enough to make him stop. He is a longtime addict. 20 plus years. I am about to the end of my rope with all of it. Our life is in shambles due to his addiction. I know this is a disease, but addicts need to realize it is treatable. They have to try. It is constant devestation for the families of addicts.


  19. WOW i thought i was alone in this crap, i was addicted to pain pills for a long time,and then i found subs, after about 4 months a friend showed me how to shoot my strips and there began a whole new addiction, i have been shooting them now for about 9 months, and luckily i have had no major issues other than the occasional missed shot, until i started waking up with headaches and i never get headaches unless i drank alot., i havent shot one now in a week, and slowly am starting to feel a little better but after all the research i have done its not worth it, we only get one chance at life there is no starting over, so i agree its not worth it i dont wanna die yet. my question is after going back to doing these the right way will the body heal its self and go back to normal. please let me know what u all think


  20. thank you.i too now want to quit an am sc got to stop.ared for my life but at same time have seen death all around me when i was on junk for 10 years.but i havta quit or die.specially shooting experiencing problems w my legs an feet goin numb an my eye hurts an adk why.


  21. Posted by bruce on October 19, 2014 at 2:12 am

    I wanted to try shooting my subs, but now you guys got me afraid to try it. I find the best way to feel anything is not to be greedy. I do a little everyday and then one day I take a little more and I feel it. When I think about shooting it , I think about my son and that makes me change my mind. Also drawing close to God in pray helps me say no.


    • The whole point of buprenorphine (suboxone) is that you don’t “feel it.” It’s supposed to take care of withdrawal symptoms so that you can function normally. Please talk to your doctor and counselor about how you are doing.


  22. Posted by tornado on November 25, 2014 at 9:19 pm

    I’ve been an addict for nine years now. I got clean and kept going back. I’m on suboxone and when used right it’s awesome. But like everything we addicts find ways to abuse it such as shooting it. Or by not taking it so that we can get high on our drug of choice. I feel this constant battle inside m of me. One week I’m happy and clean and happy that I’m clean. The next week I’m mad that everyone’s getting high and I’m not. It’s as though I get jealous. It’s a sick incideous disease and I hope everyone finds a way and strength through it. I have done so many people in my life much wrong and constantly hurt the people I live. If you ever need anyone to talk to I’m here for you.


  23. Posted by Cam on December 1, 2014 at 3:39 am

    this really is a lot of great information. i wish it was enough for me to quit shooting my subs. i have been iv’ing bupe now for over a year. i usually do up to 4mg 2-3 times daily but have also done whole 8mg strips at once. i guess i never really understood the ceiling effect. at this point my tolerance is to high to take them as prescribed, and i’m to afraid of withdrawl to taper off. either way subs make me feel normal. they don’t get me high they just make me feel okay, but i can justify my sub usage with the positive effect it has had on my life wether i am taking it the right way or not. im off dope and pills and i am not hanging around with the scum of the earth, im thinking about myself and my future, and working on my passion and purpose in life and doing what i need to do to accomplish just that. before filtering my subs with an oral syringe and micron filter i had many complications as well. now i convince myself i have established a safer way of iv’ing the product, even tho i kno i am still kidding myself.


    • Actually due to the ceiling effect, your tolerance isn’t likely to be any higher than if you were using them properly. You could likely switch to sublingual use without any withdrawal. I’m betting your blood level would stay about the same. Anyway, please talk to your doctor.


      • Posted by Cam on December 4, 2014 at 12:21 pm

        is any doctor still going to prescribe suboxone after they find out a client has disproven the naloxone myth and admits to misusing the substance for over a year intravenously. i would like to see how my next appointment goes if i did. i’m sure i won’t be texting him to setup an appointment anymore or meeting him at any coffee shops or back allies anymore. hell maybe if word gets around about this maybe the dick will actually be forced to accept health insurance and won’t ask for $200 under the table for every visit.

  24. Posted by Cam on December 10, 2014 at 9:06 am

    it is very unfortunate that there is not enough well educated doctors commited to treating substance abuse. most just want there money and the ones that actually want to help addicts kick you off after your first relapse. i wish i could get off, but i fear that someone will take my spot if i ever really need it again, and with as many addicts that need help, will i ever get in to see a doctor ever again? i live in north dakota and there is only 3-4 who are even certified. sorry to rant but these problems have been on my mind a lot lately and it is interesting to see there is a blog dedicated to this information. thank you.


  25. Powerful. Thanks all


  26. Posted by Theseus on March 9, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    I am a pharmacologist, so please let me give you some words of advice:

    If you do inject Subutex, please always use a micron filter (0.2µm, ask your pharmacist!), and use a sterile saline solution (NaCl) instead of water from the sink or bottle. Using new needles and syringes is a no-brainer. But please do not forget the micron filters. One warning though: Don’t use them too long, because as they are filled up with the fillers, etc. they are contaminated and it is just a matter of days until the filter is filled with bacteria. Although they themselves won’t get through, their toxins will. And you get a really bad infection if you inject something from a filter used for several days!
    So always use a new micron filter for every batch. To be more cost effective, I’d recommend making larger batches and throw the used micron filter away after that. For example: Crush 5 Subutex 8mg tablets and make yourself a 40mg / 10ml buprenorphine in saline solution (or 40mg / 20ml if you prefer that) and store it in a larger sterile syringe with a sterile cap/lock (ask the pharmacy!). Also write down the concentration you chose.

    Even better would be to not shoot them at all. But if you can’t resist, before shooting them up like an idiot (e.g. just filtering it through cigarette filters and using water), do it at least as safe as possible.
    With the micron filter you can at least keep the fillers, larger particles than 0.2µm and also most bacteria out of your solution.

    But beware: If something is already contaminated with bacteria and fungi, they may produce toxins and those do get through the micron filter, because they are smaller than 0.2µm!


  27. Posted by Theseus on March 9, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    Also: If a pill was once in the mouth of somebody else or even in the mouth of yourself, do NOT inject that. Not even with a micron filter!
    The best way would be to always wash your hands and your desk where you prepare the solution and then try not to touch the pill itself. Open it from the blister and put it into the saline solution without touching it. Then just wait for it to dissolve. After 5-10 minutes you just stir a little bit and filter it with the micron filter.


  28. Posted by sad on April 1, 2015 at 6:43 am

    On one of the first few posts, someone mentioned how the back of their neck hurt. I think my sister is shooting up in her neck, or at least I heard this. She doesn’t know I know. She’s been going around with a heating pad wrapped around the back of her neck for a month. She’s been having bad headaches everyday, as well. I wanted to ask her if she thought her IV use (suboxone) was causing it, but, I knew she wouldn’t acknowledge it. I worry that she could get some kind of infection around her brain. I know a lady who was an IV user and it paralyzed her for a year or longer. She still has trouble walking. I have a son who is an addict (IV user) . He’s spent over 220 days in rehab, not at one time, but total. He’s killing himself. He’s so skinny and although he would give anyone the shirt off his back, he’s not the same person. He doesn’t seem to enjoy life anymore, like it’s a job to get up. I just want my son back.I want him to love life the way he use to. Suboxone is what he injects too.


    • Obviously, you should try to talk your sister into going to the hospital, telling the doctors about what’s really been going on, and let them check her for an infection.
      Intravenous addicts can get all sorts of strange infections, including encephalitis (brain infection) or meningitis (infection of the lining of the brain and spinal column). both are deadly.
      I pray your son and sister get help soon. No one is hopeless as long as they are still alive.


  29. Posted by Harold short on June 14, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    I shoot up suboxen strips and best I musthave missed cause now my wrist is hurts to bend it I’m ready to start taking it correctly but I’m too ashamed to go to the e.r or Dr so how can I get my veins back in good shape and have good blood flow I’m worried I have a blood clot I use to have nice veins u could see now I can’t see a single arm vein if anyone wants to help me or talk to me please do so !!!! I need help


    • Please go to your doctor. Sometimes you must chose your life above your pride.


    • Posted by julzybee on July 1, 2015 at 6:19 am

      Doctors are very intelligent people, obviously. They see these types of situations every day, unfortunately. However, they SHOULD have respect for the fact that you are taking the 2nd step to getting help * the 1st being admitting and accepting that u have a serious problem and u are ready to seek help from a professional. Any Dr that treats you like ur just another “junkie” that disgusts them is a UNETHICAL ONE THAT U SHOULD IMMEDIATELY REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THEIR presence and REPORT to the hospital administrator as well as the AMA (American Medical Association and find another doctor who TRULY cares about ppl and has a passion for the work that they do, surprisingly, that would MOST likely be a SUBOXONE DR. I know one of the best, even though I am NOT shooting my meds, I AM an ex pill, meth, ice & cocaine shooter. I can relate for the addiction problem in itself. Don’t keep procrastinating. I’ve seen several ppl die, one of whom was an ex boyfriend and still best friend of mine..I am STILL DEVASTATED BY this. I’ve got friends who have lost limbs. I also contracted hepatitis C as a shooter. Luckily, not AIDS. PLEASE DON’T WAIT ANOTHER DAY, HAVE A FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER GO WITH YOU FOR MORAL SUPPORT. God bless and I wish you all the best.


  30. Posted by Jenn on July 1, 2015 at 5:38 am

    I have considered doing this because I am in opiate withdraw and very sick. Need to be able to go back to work before I lose my job. I actually have a boil type infection on my eyelid and in my groin area. Do you think this is a simple infection I can clear up? Really embarrassing. The other thing is i have been having a pain in what i thought was my ribs, under my left breast, now I wonder if it is my lung. I really think i should go to the hospital but want to wait until i am not in withdraw. Not sure if you still do this or not. Not even sure why I am typing this…..


  31. Posted by julzybee on July 1, 2015 at 5:58 am

    This is a MAJOR PROBLEM IN MY AREA. I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH A NEW BLOG ON THIS SUBJECT AND PERHAPS EVEN MAKE MY OWN DOCUMENTARY. I plan to do the research it takes to finding out what the guidelines for making a “homemade” documentary are and other info I am subject to. Any pointers are much appreciated.


    • Posted by Chell on August 31, 2016 at 11:49 pm

      Did you start a new blog? If so, leave a link. Thanks.


      • Posted by Julz on March 4, 2017 at 1:07 am

        I NEVER thought someone would comment or reply, therefore I am coming back here a bit late, and I did start a new blog @ and I have only a couple of posts there. I am really a good writer who is just now realizing that every writer is TOO critical of their own work, but I am going to start a new blog here in WP and really stick with it. I hope you get this and want to offer any suggestions or constructive criticism. Bless you! 😊

  32. Posted by julzybee on July 1, 2015 at 6:22 am

    Reblogged this on julzybee and commented:
    Starting new blog on this subject, been planning and it will include illustrations and a will clarify that..coming soon.


    • Posted by Masterchief on August 31, 2015 at 10:28 am

      Please tell me where I need some help 2 days off them now and I still want to do?!


    • Posted by Julz on March 4, 2017 at 1:13 am

      I got swept away by shiny objects and my lack of focus has been a nightmare! I have decided, after much research and reviews, to start OVER again with a blog in WordPress and that will be the one I focus on and post regularly to from now on. I have been experiencing some pretty deep criticism of my own work by none other than myself! Now that I have read thousands of OTHER writer’s blogs and see that I am normal, I will be OK.


  33. Posted by Masterchief on August 31, 2015 at 10:27 am

    Hey everybody I know I’m posting on an old thread but this one seemed most relevant I have been I.v subbutex not suboxone for a year and my life is in pieces my I have two viens that are rock hard today is my second day of not shooting any advice I feel well apart from the vien feels tight in my arm?


    • Thanks for reading my blog, but it is meant to give information about medication-assisted treatment of opioid addiction.
      Of course I’m going to recommend you see a doctor.


  34. Posted by no1angel on September 25, 2015 at 8:18 am

    I’m in the same boat as all the above I was actually never a herion addict. I got put on subutex after I had been on pain killers for a few years for a neck surgery. My Dr abruptly took me off with no reason and didn’t tell me I would get sick. I had no clue that I would. I was never an opiate person. I dabbled in a few other things but really just wasn’t an opiate addict.
    I’ve had several car accidents and have neck problems and nerve damage so I really did need to stay on them at least moderately. I didn’t know what to do so I found suboxonne and started using this.
    I’ve also had a lot of my small intestines removed from another surgery. IDk if this had anything to do with it, but the suboxone made me have severe stomache cramping.
    I was on it for 3 years and never injected it. Never even thought of it.

    Then I moved from VA back to my hometown in MD a few years ago I found out that everyone here was on Subutex or suboxonne.
    I had never injected them until I moved back here. Though I had injected cocaine a few times prior to this (I could count on my hands and feet the amount of times I had IV”d anything in my life/i’m 43) I wouldn’t have considered myself an addict. Just something I dabbled in a few times over the course of 20 years and just to say I’d done it before.

    I went to a DR here and to get suboxonne or subutex after not being able to get a DR anywhere to look at me or get my medical records to look into my back issues. Too many addicts in the area. Soo, I went to a Sub Dr for help. Subs help keep pain to a minimum. They don’t help all pain but it does help some.
    At some point after I moved someone told me it would help to inject them. ha!! that’s a laugh. To make a long story short. I did this for 3 years every day twice a day sometimes more. Now, I have several veins that are just collapsed and some that I used only a few times that are rock hard for several inches. I recently had a hemangioma in my nose that had to be removed. I think it’s from the iv use of this drug. I did so much damage so quickly that my body was trying to make veins anywhere it could.

    I ran out of veins and used ones that your not supposed to use. I ran out of places to inject and used my calf… 2 months after I am getting chest pains. I was already getting them occasionally. Every few months I’d get a pain in my chest that would last a second or two.
    I’ve been to the ER and Dr’s several times and each time they think I’m a hypocondriac because they don’t know about me injecting. Aside from the shame they brand you here and treat you very badly. They also act like they just don’t care and wish you would just die.

    2 weeks ago, I was nauseas for 3 weeks. Cramps in my legs, hands and feet are numb, now that’s gone away but my lungs and heart hurt. Now, I’m getting pains in my chest every night lasting for several minutes at a time. This goes on for hours and hours, each night when I go to bed I’m afraid I won’t wake up.

    I went to the ER a week before the heart pain started with it being every night and when I just had leg cramps and fluid retention in my legs. Because I otherwise look healthy they wouldn’t even look at me. They said… it’s heartburn and nerve damage from the neck surgery.
    Each time I’ve been to the ER it’s so cold in there that my swelling goes way down and they don’t see it.

    My heart has been hurting really bad over the last 3 days, heart, jaw, ams from my armpit down, and middle back (straight through from my heart) I don’t even want to go to the rinky dink joke of an ER in this shithole town because they will tell me I”m fine. Give me an xray (which show nothing) and send me home.

    I’m online every night trying to figure out a way to clean this crap out of my blood and what’s left of my veins and losing hope by the minute. I have 2 noticeable blood clots in my arms. NO telling how long they have been there. I just noticed them. I was an idiot about the way I injected this drug.. Wow.. I am going to die and for such a senseless reason.
    I can only hope that trying to see a regular DR and tell them everything may improve my chances of living.

    I’m nauseas and have lung and chest pain again as I write this but afraid to go to the ER here.

    Advice to anyone who’s Iv’ing this drug… STOP NOW before it’s too late.. One day.. and that day will come —suddenly. It will be too late.


    • Posted by Doug johnson on October 9, 2015 at 2:55 am

      This suboxone/subutex iv addiction is a monster I thought I was the only person destroying they’re body I iv subutex everyday have been for about 3 or 4 years almost and I’m starting to feel bad circulation in my arm neck and have slight swelling around my right shoulder I’ve also had slight chest pains the past week or 2 not sure if it’s related but something has to give I feel disgusted that I’ve wasted my life and talent due to drugs and most likely am ruining my body permanently I could’ve fought mixed martial arts professionally but no I had to choose this self destructive path to nowhere except the hospital or cemetery.


      • Posted by Conny on October 13, 2015 at 7:33 am

        Hi Doug, thinking negative doesn’t help. Circulation improves once you stop. Not as good as if you never did inject but it does improve. That’s my experience anyway.
        Try putting off injecting for just five minutes at a time to start with….. that’s how I did it…. now I’m trying to do it with smoking as my throat and lungs hurt.
        Keep in touch, take care.

      • Posted by Doug johnson on October 14, 2015 at 4:43 am

        Thanks conny, I just don’t know I will ever get my health back and it worries me but like everyone else on here I’m not sure how to go about telling a doctor and if they will even know what to do or if there is any treatment, I’m 27 and feel like I’m 40 because of this, I’m in good shape but the iv usage of bupe has definitely taken a toll on body, I’m trying to come off it all together and just hoping I can be treated and regain most of my health at least and not have to deal with the pain numbness and discomfort I get mostly everyday now, I’ve had to take benzos to keep from worrying myself to death about it if anyone has an answer please let me know because I do not want to kill myself by being foolish with this any longer I feel I’m playing Russian roulette but can’t stop because of addiction

      • Posted by Conny on October 15, 2015 at 10:12 am

        Doug Hang in there!!!! I’m 49 and did it for 12 years… I live in Melbourne and thought for many years that I was the only one injecting.
        Your so young with plenty of time to turn this around, just take it orally one day at a time….. good on you for giving up opiates!!! That’s a huge achievement, your not giving yourself enough credit.
        I remember I had a lot of symptoms that ended up being anxiety….. Chinese medicine helped me and yoga helped alot. You are still young enough to kick this, met someone and have a family.
        Pls Doug don’t focus on the short-term and start healing yourself.
        I used to sleep with my hands down below my heart….. after 2 years I put them anywhere.
        Take it orally then the choice is made for the day and tomorrow is another day….. and yoga……
        Keep in touch
        Cheers conny

  35. Posted by Mancc on October 13, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    Hello. I was searching for this because I am so fed up with my life and myself. I have been injecting suboxone films for about 2.5 years and I can’t stop doing it. I get real lazy with cleanliness when injecting reusing needles and filters as if it was heroin. The reason I started injecting in the first place was because you need way more less than you would normally take sublingual. At first I did it to make a few extra bucks getting rid of extra like 90% of ppl do cuz let’s face it, who really needs to take 3 8 mg strips per day. Now however I keep injecting cuz I’m supposed to be tapering down and am only prescribe half of a 2 mg strip a day which I take, but I inject it. I have already had major complications from this. I was hospitalized for a month and a half with a staph blood infection, sepsis and that caused abscesses in my lungs which have healed tho one left a small scar. When I was in the hospital I didn’t mention I was injecting suboxone because I am on probation and was scared they would tell my doctors or make me totally detox right there. When they put my on 2mg oral in the hospital I was getting very bad withdrawals compared to the 1mg IV I was doing daily. Well lo and behold only 2 months after getting out of the hospital I started injecting them again for the little boost it gives. Injecting suboxone strips DESTROYS your veins and they do not come back, I needed a PICC line, a sonogram could not find a vein for and IV in me and the first vein they were able to find was in my neck. I have the veins of and 80 year old woman they said. Idk what to do anymore. I want off but the withdrawal is awful and I’ve gone cold turkey from heroin in the past. I have nobody to tell because I am afraid I will be sent to jail if my probation officer finds out. I am attempting to get back to regular oral dose but need to somehow get extra off the street. This drug is a nightmare and I hate myself that I even turned into this. I would rather just be a regular heroin addict any day.


    • I would suggest you consider getting on methadone. It can’t be injected (OK it can but it will clot your veins for sure) and it is a full opioid. Some patients get addicted to the act of injecting and it can be very difficult to stop that habit even if it doesn’t cause a high. And you’re right, injecting is dangerous. So tell your doc everything and ask for help getting into a methadone program, or even an inpatient program.


    • Posted by Ann on August 7, 2016 at 7:44 pm

      so, i obv dont kno what state yr in, but depending what yr on probation for, how much of a rap sheet you have, etc., most probation officers wont violate you. have you researched yr judge to see how he/she behaves in these situations? most of them want us to get better, not lock us up for slipping. and its better to do it yrself b4 you get popped buying or carrying something you bought illegally. im not a lawyer, just going by my own experience and friends experience, but there are prob some proactive moves you can make to get help w.o. getting put in jail for trying. id research my judges history, treatment possibilites (like even if i go into a treatment center, i cant be picked up for a warrant for violating because of confidentiality- as long as cops dont physically see me there that is, and when i get out i can deal with it then, with the proof of action already taken to get back in line with my requirements). and then you have the opportunity to be clean from everything too. freedom from constant fear and monitoring for signs of sickness. or switch to methadone. but yr already down so low, relatively, on subs, you could get clean and be free!!


  36. Posted by Will on November 7, 2015 at 3:42 am

    Anyone that wants to or is thinning about shooting up suboxone /subtext don’t if u value ur life it makes ur vains hard or disappear it’s all bad I ben shooting suboxone an tex for to years I don’t get high I’ve through my rigs prob 100 times a I just can’t stop I’m to the point where I want to get switched to methadone I’m sick of it I dont want to die I here people havin breathing problems and hart problems so please take it from me nothing is worth it u don’t even get high I dont understand y I can’t stop people don’t understand like just stop its never that easy people if u r going to get high do anything but sub any form or walbutren not to incurage drug use but if u must use don’t use these nasty shit unless u put it under ur tunge


  37. Posted by Nicki on November 13, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    I’m a iv drug user of suboxne and I need some advice on certain things and how it affects my body I have 3 kids I have costudy of my handicapped sister I have a lot to loose ive been using suboxne for 5 years now but I’m to aaffraid to reach out for help or find out what I’m doing to my body I need to hear from other addicts on what’s really happening inside of my body I have to much to live for and to much to loose thank you


    • I’d recommend going to an opioid treatment program, and consider starting methadone. I’d worry that suboxone is going to be a trigger for IV use in the future.


  38. Posted by Spaceman4450 on December 30, 2015 at 1:18 am

    I’ve been injecting suboxone/subutex for almost 7 years now. Daily. Five shots a day avg 2mg shots. Okay so let me first start by telling you I have OCD in an extreme way they say! Just to let you know how it’s affected my health and I’m probably severe case but here It is. I got endocarditis somewhere along the way which destroyed 3 of my 4 heart valves. I went to the doctor because of purple spots on my fingers I noticed at work. Too painful to use my hands and the ends of my fingers were spooning out! (Looks like spoons so the doctor’s kinda knew right away that it was most likely infectious endocarditis. And it was. But It was a lot more severe than I thought. At the time I walked out of the we and ignored it. I’m very ashamed of ever being a drug addict. Especially this! The fear of losing my career if my employers found out why I had these issues kept me from fixing it…My hands, feet, neck, even my face go numb within seconds of me being still. Hands and feet swell so much people call me big hands! Iused to have a fantastic vascular system. Now every vein is hard and narrowed or just gone! I always used a new rig. For each shot. I ruined the veins even in the tips of my fingers, Palms of my hands, all the way to my toes. They pretty much stay numb on my right foot. Permanent blood clots in the heap of that foot from using an artery. My heart skips’s hard for me to walk to my living room because of shortness of breath. Sometimes I have chest pains that are so unbearable I know anyone else would be terrified them but it’s become normal. Day in the life of an obsessive compulsive ex oxycontin addict who just can’t put the needle down. You don’t have to be obsessive like me but you will end up here to I promise. You think because you can maintain your life without the normal addict behavior that it’s fine! I thought so. I thought so too. You don’t see it now but no matter what your injecting it will ruin you and true people around you. I had a good career and last year I made 133, 000 dollers after taxes. Cars, truck, 2 motorcycles nice house. Now I own a backpack with 3 t shirts 2 pair of pants some underwear and socks. And have nothing else. Suboxone the miracle drug! Blah blah. It’s not helping us if a inject. Maybe you don’t get all fucked up like you did before sub but it’s just as bad. So hope you guys dont destroy your body…mind…or your life. I wish I understood then


    • Instead of letting the disease run its course, have you considered a methadone program?


      • Posted by Mark on January 16, 2016 at 8:48 pm

        How can I find a methadone or suboxone program where I live? I don’t even know where to start. I’ve been an addict for over 15 years but have only recently started shooting up(past 6 years) I want help and want to get clean but don’t know where to even start as far as which Dr I need to see. Does my family doctor have to refer me to a drug treatment Dr? I just acquired insurance and have my first doctor’s appointment with my new family doctor on the 25 of Jan. This happens to be my sister’s doctor, and I’m reluctant to tell this new Dr, who I have never met, I have a severe drug problem because my sister is not on drugs at all. I will probably end up telling.

        Do I have the right idea about being into a drug treatment program?

      • Yes, you definitely have the right idea. Here is a link to help people find addiction treatment:
        It’s rare that I get a patient referred from another doctor. Most people seeking treatment ask their friends, or go online to do research. That’s kind of sad. Not all doctors know how or where to refer a patient with an opioid addiction, but I do encourage you to tell your doctor all of your medical problems. And he is prohibited from revealing your health history to any family members without your permission.

  39. Posted by Alex on February 6, 2016 at 7:11 am

    How do I know if someone close to me is shooting it?


  40. Posted by Carrie on February 12, 2016 at 9:07 am

    I wish I could show yal pics of what sub has done to me I can’t even move my arm or fingers on my right side cause I sctewed up all my veins and turned to arteries and now I’m screwed it hurts so bad I haven’t slept in almost a week and on top of that I have a hole in my other arm about a half inch deep and. 3 in wide that is black and if it heals will leave a terrible scar I never missed I’m just so clogged up that when I push the drug in it can’t move and burns through my arm, it feels like I’m dying so I thought I would come on here to warn people so they can stop in time stop sooting this awful drug please its killing us


  41. Posted by Bobby on March 27, 2016 at 12:54 pm

    I have been injecting Soboxone for a year and using one 8mg tablet per week – I need to stop as sick of it but I want to know if I will have major withdrawals and how long will it last as have to go to work and stuff and cannot afford time off……..


  42. Posted by Babybrowneyes on April 4, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    Me and my husband have shoot suboxone strips for 3 years know because it takes so much is so addictive we have tried to quit but it feels impossible I wonder how much longer I can live this way just about all our veins are gone some mes it takes me 2 hours to hit myself when I take it I feel like I am missing g something so if anyone is going to try this pleae dont it has ruined my life we used clean needles and I still ended up catching hep c just because I reused a needle a couple times I just didn’t think it could happen to me.


  43. Posted by geeholb on May 8, 2016 at 5:55 am

    I have been injection for over two years now and I’ve never had any big issues until now. My hand and forearm is swollen and itching and it’s hurts a whole fucking lot. I do inject in my hand and I was wanting to know why my hand/arm is like this. I had never injected anything until a little over two years ago and I broke a promise I made to myself when I did. I wish for death more now than ever.


  44. Posted by jess on June 18, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    I’ve been injecting sub straps for a few years now. My hands r red and swollen from hitting veins, scars from using small overused veins, I was even able to hit those tiny blood vessels, but didn’t stop injecting when it burned badly thus ending up with I guess flesh death. Those take 4 ever 2 heal & r very painful. The worst part are my calves. I have giant areas where there is no skin. I’m being treated at my local wound center. They are treating the wounds like 3rd degree burns. 1 large area on my rt leg, 2 smaller on the left. I can’t wear shorts, I can’t be a better mom, all from shooting strips. I basically had a nervous breakdown about all this last night and I used it sublingually yesterday and to day-to-day needles. I can’t believe I’ve done this to myself. My opiate addiction started with the typical back injury, fibromyalgia diagnosis and being prescribed Norco then oxys as I get opiate tolerant quickly (that’s probably more mental than physical), yada,yada,yada and here I am. I am evaluating all of my life choices and have decided I’m a bad mom, wife and friend cuz I had to plan my time around when I could shoot up n possibly have it take up to 3 hrs locked in a room coming out periodically to check on things (what a waste of time killing myself when I could be with my son). Oh my God, I’m so ashamed. My dad died of a drug o.d. when I was 10 and I will never be able to get over it, so now I’m gonna do that to my precious boy (I don’t deserve him). All this pointless shit stops NOW!!!!! He deserves the best mom that I know I can be. My husband deserves a better wife. Most of all, I need to get back into my faith. I need God to help me. I too believe in Jesus, I read someone else on here does. I can’t do this without his help. Phones gonna die, so, please heed my warnings-dont inject anything!!!


    • Can you get to an opioid treatment program to start methadone?
      You are not a bad person, you are a sick person. And shame can kill you. you’ve got to drop that rock, and get appropriate help.


  45. so I was just wondering… I used to shoot suboxone probably for about 3 years I haven’t done that in a year, so I have these red blotches on my arms from where I missed or shot down or something I cant quite remember but there there and its really embarrassing. its horrible I have no track marks but still have to wear long sleeves in the summer and what not. anyways ive went to a doctor..its not cellulitis, its not skin cancer.. ive tried antibiotics I was prescribed a steroid cream..nothing works…ive read a lot about people getting skin conditions from shooting suboxone but nothing seems to be the same as what I have, if anybody has any info please respond. thanks a bunch and goodluck to everyone shooting this shit, get off it, my friends who have shot it for a long period of time all have had something bad happen to there bodys. one guys appendix burst…I myself had a tumor on my rib cage which I had to get removed..not sure if it was suboxone related but seems likely. anyways good luck and thanks


    • You’ve gotta expect that that I’m going to tell you to see a doctor, right?
      I’m glad you like my blog and I’m really glad you’re not injecting now.


      • thank you. I have gone to a dermatologist..the steroid cream didn’t work so the next step is getting a skin sample and seeing what it is. this blog is very informative and anyone shooting or considering shooting subs should just take a look at these comments and I’m sure there would be a change of heart or at least some serious concern.

  46. Posted by Nicole on July 25, 2016 at 1:02 am

    I injected Suboxone into my ankle it was a really tiny vein a bunch of blood shot in the needle so I assumed it was then I pushed it in really slow there was no bubble so I assumed it was in. once I was done about a minute later it looks like I have hives and it’s really red and I’m scared I’m going to get another infection what do I do to prevent that from happening


  47. Posted by jaboo on August 9, 2016 at 4:08 am

    Hi, im nervous about posting but my husband and i have been using subutex iv for a long time, i have recently been getting lots of infections in my skin, my fear is for him though he has lost feeling to his left foot and half way up his leg. Does anyone know why that maybe.


  48. Posted by melissa on August 21, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    Can anyone reply asap with an answer please. I have been on subs for some time now. And have shot them for awhile to. Ive missed many many times and have even had abscess. Well the other day I shot a quarter piece of the subutex and missed atleast half of it (which ive missed many times before as said above) but this time something else happened. It turned into a red circle kinda like the beginning of an abscess. Burned so extra bad where I couldn’t take it and after a a day it turned completely black. Like as in dead black and the circle got huge and hurts n burns so bad. The surface and skin is completely numb but underneath burns n hurts so bad and ive never had this one happen n ive had alot happen. Ill send pics if possible I just wanted some feedbackfrom other peipeople’s experiences and to see if this happened to anyone.


    • Please go to your doctor or local emergency department!


    • Posted by Joey on September 13, 2016 at 5:27 pm

      Yea this has actually happened to me. Going through it now. I wasnt even sure that i missed because it didnt bubble up but it burned really bad. The vein was on the side of my foot and was a smaller vein. It continued burning the rest of the day and hurt like a bitch. The next day it turned to a deep blood red about the size of a 50cent piece and eventually turned black like you said. Ive had plenty of abcessses. They come on slow over the course of a few days And eventually swell and weeks later burst. This is something different although it did puss it wasnt a standard abcess. think its just a different type of infection than the norm. It didnt spread luckily. I traced around the black area to make sure it didnt spread luckily it didnt but it started to rot within a day or so. The black skin just dies. Leaving a very deep hole. I just kept it clean and used antibiotic ointment. Fast forward 5 months and it still hasnt fully healed although it is healing. Pretty sure it being on my foot only slows the healing process because i have to wear sweaty boots for 10 hours a day. It hurts putting shoes on and taking them off. Going on 6 months and its probably a lil over half way healed. The hole is so big and deep it had trouble closing. Basically it needed stitches and probably would have healed in a few weeks with a way smaller scar. if your dumb like me you wont be going to the hospital unless you collapse. Make sure you keep it covered and clean it a few times a day. I have a bunch of nasty pictures from it. I documented the whole thing with photos but i dont know how to post them.


  49. Posted by Chell on August 25, 2016 at 1:22 am

    My husband shoots subutex. He has so many of the symptoms I have read about here. I try and talk to him about it but he doesn’t want to hear it. I know it scares him but he needs to know what he is doing to his body so I will keep trying.


  50. I’ve been injecting for 7 years. Pills for 3, strips for 4. I started after I found my 24yo girlfriend, dead on our couch.
    Today is my second day of not injecting.
    My health is shot. The worst are my liver and kidneys, lungs and heart. Foamy urine, sore kidneys, chest pains, extreme breathlessness. I’m pretty sure I have endocarditis as I used to buy subz from a girl I’m pretty sure sneaked them out of her mouth.
    I feel like I’ve destroyed my brain. I can’t think well and have trouble writing and speaking without long pauses. Things I was really good at, just a cpl years ago.
    I have been wanting to give up for a long time, with no luck.
    Until yesterday. So, I’m two days off the spike. I believe GOD is helping me as I just don’t believe I could’ve done this, alone. I’ve tried and failed too many times.
    I’ve given up for a month, about a year ago and then I hung around with a person who asked me for some to shoot..idiota!
    So I’m hoping it sticks, this time. I need to stay away from people and triggers and I’m lucky enough to know what those are..
    I most humbly ask for all people suffering addiction to be blessed. For our hearts to be healed.
    Pray for me, as I will for you.
    GOD bless.


    • Posted by Conny on September 19, 2016 at 10:00 am

      God bless you darling I hope you feel better soon


      • I blew it..😖..I lasted four days, no sweat..on the fifth, I couldn’t get it out of my mind..I’ve no doubt it had a lot to do with the anniversary of my two brothers having been killed in a car crash, that week..we were close and grew up in the same bedroom for the first 15 years of my life.. I drove to a chemist and bought 1mils. Tortured myself for 2 weeks and then stopped again, yesterday..
        If the past is anything to go by, (& it is, of course), getting further and further each time, is how it will play out..
        I remind myself to never quit quitting..
        Thankyou Connie, for your kind words and thoughts. I’m really inspired to read of your own journey, as documented above. I’m so glad you’ve found your peace.🙌
        Again, I most humbly pray for all who suffer from addiction and for our hearts to be healed..

  51. Posted by little momma on September 26, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    I’ve injected for over a year and have a very hard time hitting anything anymore. IVs are impossible. And I inject in my hands. I get this weird swelling from time to time in my arms that is very painful and more often than not a rash will appear shortly after the swelling starts. Does anyone have any clue why this happens?


  52. Posted by joe on October 27, 2016 at 10:22 pm

    has any 1 become allergic to the cold (when skin gets cold) hives from shooting suboxone


  53. over two weeks now and feeling much better..maybe even beat it..almost went to a week ago and thought “what are you doing!!?? you don’t even like it..”..
    started running for an hour p/day and feel much better..
    blessings to all still suffering..


  54. just hate the taste, so much..


  55. Posted by Tyler on November 15, 2016 at 5:45 am

    I have been i.ving suboxone strips for a couple weeks and at first i thought it was a nice feel and a good high but i started getting symptoms that felt like cotton fever cold sweats chills shaking uncontrollably…yet i still kept i.ving them now i am having short breath and my chest hurts constantly i am stopping immediately after ive read this and if u are i.ving subs i suggest u do the same thing hopefully the damage ive done will go away on its own but i might of gave myself a stay in the hospital


  56. Posted by Ex sub abuser on November 16, 2016 at 6:28 am

    Me and my husband shot sub for 3 years. It ended finally when he got an empyema on his lung and had to have surgery. 2 weeks in the hospital and a chest tube. They kept him doped up, but still it sucked and was very hard on both of us. If you’re abusing suboxone or subutex please just stop. They really work better when placed under your tongue, like they are supposed to be taken.


  57. Posted by Pixi Princess on December 1, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    Ok so i misuse my subs. Im a medical student so i know the risks. My question is can subs build up in ur joints? I have multiple bone and joint issues. The only reason i even injected it was after many many many months i sti couldnt get past the taste of the strips it made me nausous i just couldnt take it anymore. The only reason i got put on the strips is because i relapsed. I was clean from heroin for 17 years. So before it got bad i got help. Im in a great clinic the monitor weekly we have groups and councling as well. O dont tell anyone cause i dont wanna be kicked out. Subs have givin me my life back. I just have noticed my joints are very stiff making it almost impossible to get up in the morning or after sitting for a long time or lahing down its like i have to unsiffin everything and its very extremly painful.


    • Anything you inject goes into joints, bone marrow, blood vessels, brain, all internal organs etc. Suboxone strips are particularly viscous/ sticks to everything it goes through. Your liver gets so large, eventually, all organs are crushed by it. joints get arthritis from both the sticky subs and the decreased bloodflow from vein damage. Your brain begins to stop functioning efficiently, making your thought process scrambled and “scattered”
      All this I learned injecting subz 1-6 times p/day, for over 7 years.
      I too did it because of the taste.
      I gave up shooting 6 weeks ago. my arthritic fingers have improved substantially. My brain function is greatly improved and my liver is far less swollen. I sleep better as I’m not in discomfort from internal organs being crushed. My sight has improved as the ingredients in subz build up in the eyes and cause fungal infections. my lungs are working a LOT better and just so much more, besides.
      If you eat a cpl jellybeans, (or something sweet), 5 mins after subz have dissolved, the sugar counteracts the bitterness and horrid aftertaste. It is very effective.
      I really hope you take on board what I’ve written. the long term effects are nasty. The longer you do it, the harder to stop. it took me 2 years of quitting, before it stuck. I pray I continue to have the resolve and continue to take subz, as prescribed.
      I pray you have guidance and blessings, no matter what you choose to do.


      • Posted by Joe shamo on January 8, 2017 at 5:28 pm

        Anyone that says the shoot subs because of the taste if full of shit …It’s only taste and if it helps taste isn’t shit …You shot it cuz you still wanted to get high

  58. Posted by Joe shamo on January 8, 2017 at 5:21 pm

    Please explain to my why you would take the first step to helping yourself then decide to step back and shoot it


  59. Posted by billy gabe on February 14, 2017 at 6:34 am

    Thanks for the info bud. Unfortunately i am one of the people who use suboxone iv..i ony do an eighth of one a day nd ive been doing it for about 4 years.. i couldnt find a thread on it when i first stared but now it seems like everyone shoots there subs .. people used to tell me i was crazy for doin that with subs lol .. if i eat it the bio-availability difference would make me literally do ten times what i do now. I really believe its a million timmes safer that runnin around shootin dope.. atleast i know what im shooting , bp and naloxone,,back when i did that dumb shit never knew what i was getting doin dope. I have also missed my shot a few times an eveverytime its sore for a day nd then goes away . No1 is gonna tell me its dangerous 😂


    • Well, more correctly, people will tell you, but you won’t hear it.
      I think you’re probably right that injecting bupe is less dangerous than injecting heroin.
      But both are dangerous.


  60. Posted by Flex on March 13, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    What I want everyone to remember is our bodies are incredible organisms and they’re capable of recovering from pretty horrible things. I know how it feels to feel like your body is shutting down on you and that hopeless feeling you get that goes along with it, but if you just make progress and cease what you’re doing it absolutely does regenerate itself. Most people here have brains that are chemically fucked, myself included, and when you’re in a state like this is hard to fix yourself. If you can just break through that and make improvements the body will repair itself like you never imagined. You won’t always feel like this. Now granted, the majority of this is regarding IV Bupe usage, and I do take them sublingually, although I have IV’d other opioids in the past, just never bupe.

    No ones even asking you to come off the bupe, just stop sticking a needle into yourself! It’s a fucking great trade off if you ask me. You get to keep using bupe and you don’t have to fucking die.

    And if anyones interested, I’ve been taking suboxone sunglingually for 6 years. I have my own blood panels run through every 6 months and everything is always in range. There appears to be almost no toxicity at all when taken as prescribed.


  61. i inject 4mg daily suboxone broken up into many times each day. i had some yesterday and it was fine although i may be hitting an artery not vein- pretty sure. maybe 2 hour later my wrist on the injection site arm felt sore like id bent it in an awkwatd position for too long as i had been , i thought norhing more of it until few more hrs later by that time it was excruciating pain in wrist and hand.
    i have a horrible inject site thats a big lump always n very scarred and sore alot from overuse and no down time….its now 7pm and my hand and wrists syill hurting so bad. not swollen hardly at all. weird colouring to my hand – white for longer where skin normally goes whiter/lighter, grey purply tinge in spotsbut these red purple patches that swell more and feel very sensitive to touch and heat is painfilul. these patches can change spots in hand/fingers.
    dp i need medical help, am i gonna loose my arm ..feels tight inside. feels like my wrist and hands been smashed up or dislicated or something but i know its not..its something to do with the suboxone injecting.
    i wantto print info from rhis site about the st andrews cross was it called, i think iv had it .
    sauboxone 8mg sublingual films is what im injecting. half a film each day. i need and want help but feel its inacessable. laat rime i seeked hoapital help when my inject site got all aore and the purple blotches- hospital told me ro go rehab and sent mw on my way.
    iv a blood factor diaorder too; im playing with death and risking so much more than my life.


    • Yes you do need to get medical help, ASAP. If you injected into an artery, you could be forming a blood clot, and could lose your hand or arm past the injection site. If you damaged a nerve, it can cause pain, but usually not the change in color that you describe.
      Have you considered going to a methadone program? Ask about that option when you go to the ER and good luck. Suboxone, really buprenorphine in any form, seems to damage the veins pretty badly.


      • Can you please put the links to your info about the purple blotchy rash looking symptom ( was it called st andrews cross)you know about due to suboxone injection,in a reply to me so i can show my dr please ?
        this is a great blog. thank you for doing such a great service to ppl who have had the misfortune of choosing to do this misuse of medications to themselves.

    • Posted by Paul Clifford on August 14, 2017 at 9:17 am

      See a doctor who knows you, mate. Don’t be scared or proud. In my experience, you will always get a lot further being straight up with doctors. If they treat you like filth, that just means they’re shitty doctors. It will all be over in a day.. you will get antibiotics and be done with it.. and you will feel SO much better, afterwards.

      You can stop injecting bupe.

      I shot it for 8 years. It took a few goes at it, but I’ve now been using it, as prescribed, for almost a year. You can see my struggle in my posts, above. Also, keep in mind – It works better under the tongue -. I was feeling exactly the way you are. I was killing myself and thought I’d never be able to stop, but I was able to. In my above posts, I list all the awful side effects I was experiencing and I’m so much happier since I stopped. Seriously, shooting suboxone is the pits and has too many terrible ramifications. I was considering changing to Methadone and if that is what it takes, then why not? But I just kept at it.. Never quit quitting. If you screw up, no big deal, just quit again. Eventually, it will stick.
      I wish you all the best and I hope you don’t mind if I pray for you.


  62. So what I have learned about injecting subutex it’s only certain ones that hurt u like that and that is the smaller round white ones that have a 8 on one side and an errow on the other, those ones will hurt u like that but the other bigger ones won’t do that to u. Just food for thought!!


  63. Posted by Carla gwin on September 24, 2017 at 7:44 am

    Ok im showing or had all of these systoms and ive recently stopped taking subutext so does this mean the damage will always be there or will it go away .


  64. Posted by Brendan on November 13, 2017 at 4:47 am

    I’ve been injecting subutex tablets for about .10 years now and have experienced some of the effects. Really worried now as my eyes leak all the time for no reason and I had no idea it was from subutex. All my veins went so time to pull up I think.


  65. Posted by Alicia Spalding on November 14, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    I have been injecting suboxone films for 2 years. It is so hard to find veins now 😦 I used suboxone to get off heroin, but now I’m addicted to it. I don’t get them myself as I don’t have insurance and I don’t want my probation officer to know I relapsed. So my wife has the prescription. We both inject them because we can get more of the drug in our system than we could doing them sublingually. It is like 2/3 or 3/4 more bioavalble through i.v. than sublingual. Since we only have her script to use we stretch it out in this method. We split an 8mg strip into 4 2mg pieces and inject daily. Her veins are shot too. She injects in her neck which freaks me out badly. She has already had a huge abscess on her neck and needed emergency surgery and was in the hospital for 8 days. Also a few times she’s accidentally hit an artery which caused a violent seizure, temporary facial paralysis, and made her be completely out of it for a hour or so. Oh and her vision was blurry for a while too. I’m afraid of what may happen to us but don’t know how to get off of these without people knowing. I’m not in a good financial state so I can absolutely not afford to miss work etc. Ugh I just feel overwhelmed.


  66. Posted by Rob j on February 20, 2018 at 3:25 am

    I was injecting suboxone for a short time maybe three months I did have a abcess removed from left arm and as far as I know I was ok after I now have been clean over six months taking Suboxone as directed and worried now about what harm I’ve done I have kids and them being a year old I’m scard I’ve been I’m the gym every day for the last five months and I notice after a work out one side of my body the veins look a little darker then other side will be body correct it’s self over time or am I destined to have really bad heart or other health issues even after the fact and would I know if something was really wrong inside me any imfo please send or help me out if I can know what to look for or ask my doctor that normally wouldn’t come up


  67. Posted by Diana Drobotan on April 5, 2018 at 4:40 pm

    I have been shooting these for years…. I think I am sick what do I do. Where should I go. Will I get better if I just stop shooting them or do I need to seek treatment somewhere? I was fine until they changed the subutex to suboxine … I have stopped since because it makes me sick. I started searching for the micron filter and how to use it and found this and now I am very scared. I used new Needle every time and thought I was OK . Am I dying?


    • If you were switched from bupe to Suboxone that implies you have ad doctor. Please talk to that doctor and tell them what you’ve said here, as soon as possible


  68. Posted by Rita Yates on June 22, 2018 at 3:25 am

    Why r doctor s prescribing this medication ,charging outrageous prices to be seen on a weekly basis..l suspected that my daughter is abusing this drug and her skin ailments r a product of her drug abuse how can this be legal and drs making a fortune on selling a drug that is being used illegally ..l am not a Dr but it is evident that my daughter is abusing it and they continue to give it to her


    • Due to patient confidentiality, your daughter’s physician can’t give you information about her treatment, unless your daughter gives written permission to do so. However, you can always provide information to your daughter’s physician. I’d consider calling or writing to the physician and describing what you are seeing. This should prompt him to look at her skin and ask her about drug misuse.


  69. Posted by Jeremy on September 6, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    I am 41 years old and I have been shooting Suboxone everyday for almost 15 years here recently I have had trouble finding places to hit so I decided to try it in the back of my calf muscle well it is either blowed vein or missed now my leg is completely swollen up my ankle keeps swelling up and I’m afraid I’m going to have to have it surgically opened it’s red and it has a pocket of pus in it it’s been 6 days since it happened and it hasn’t been anything but get worse if anybody has any suggestions please let me know


  70. Posted by Ashley on October 4, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    I love how people have been on medication for years but are calling it “sAboxone” and “subuteXT” geez people educate yourselves seriously!!!


  71. Posted by Mr Nicky Davies on October 23, 2018 at 7:50 am

    Iv injected subutex for 10 years plus


  72. Posted by Mr Nicky Davies on October 23, 2018 at 7:54 am

    im actually now in hospital with a DVT bloodclot and I still inject subutex tablets. I know im stupid and foolish. I usually only do max 4mg at once so there isn’t so much chalky binders and fillers from pills going into my bloodstream at once and this 100% works in that if im withdrawing I immidiatley stop upon injection and that is a self reinforcing thing I must quit! Advice needed please? thanks all.


    • Please talk to your doctor. I think going to an opioid treatment program, where you dose on site, with observed dosing, may be most helpful to you. Or you could consider switching to methadone, another evidence-based treatment for opioid use disorder.


  73. Posted by Beth & Keshia Hayes on April 24, 2019 at 1:27 pm

    I shot box strip in forearm and now my bicep has a hard vein it’s hot and red what is this did I hit a ligament or something


  74. I have been using buprenorphine 8 mg tablets sublingually three times a day for three years. I’ve just recently started using them the way I am prescribed which is sublingual. I have always injected Subutex since even before I was getting them legally I noticed in my past and and some of my acquaintances that they are getting discoloration and reddening of the skin almost like damage to the skin around the injection site. It also causes numbness around the injected area.
    Can you please give me more inside or or tell me exactly what I need to do to help my friend before it gets worse?!?! Thank you


    • Yes, buprenorphine appears to be particularly caustic when injected. My last blog post on this was 1/15/2017 and it probably contains some helpful info for you.


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